Jen's Den

[Jen Lyon]

Hey Anthony and Yau! I have mostly comments for the 2 of you, I think I understand your games more than everyone else having worked with you 2 since the start on the jury right now and I'll let them ask you those kinds of questions.




Yau-Man, I'll start with you. You said in your response to Brenda that you would have honored your Final 2 with Courtney over Anthony or I. Yet you cited your main reason for voting me out as going against the Trinity, when your ideal Final 2 was to fuck over Anthony and myself. A little bit hypocritical don't you think?


You were also upset I didn't have faith you could beat Anthony. Well sorry, I was being realistic and I was right. Unlike you I tried not to bullshit people, I knew Anthony was threat and had to go in order to ensure I'd make the Finals, but due to his many rewards even when he was vulnerable, it was near impossible to take him down. I got close posting over 8 hours to do it, and I knew if he didn't go 4th he was winning the Final challenge and taking you to the end, not me. Of course Anthony would want me gone because I was the biggest obstacle standing in the way of making the Final 2, because if anyone could beat Anthony in flash games, posting or puzzles in this game, it was me.



Now I could forgive you for the above bullshit, but then you had to go and still make it all personal by telling Courtney what you did about my story, that I shared with you because I trusted you, and spoiling my alias to Andy as well as the ENTIRE CAST, which I also trusted you with and you knew was very important to me. This is not something you do to a friend.


I am going to base my decision here though on who I felt played the best game, and try to put my bitterness aside here, so you still have a chance at my vote based on your answers to the questions from the other jurors.


I would like to know why I went home at the Final 4, no more bullshit, and why you decided to choose Courtney over the Trinity.










Anthony, the problem I think the jury has with your gameplay, myself included is that you seem to be here mostly on the back of DV items and immunity wins. The DV items like you said you only had 2 of, and a lot of them came from Yau and I using them to protect you and ensure who we wanted to go home went home on any give round. But like you said to Brenda, even without the items, the votes were there on any given round for everyone to go home, even Ace since some of the votes nullified were actually votes FOR Ace.


So besides strength in immunity challenges and the DV items, what else did you do ensure you made it to the end, and why do you think Yau-Man made it when he only won immunity once?

[Anthony Robinson]

Thanks Jen for your words and questions

So besides strength in immunity challenges and the DV items, what else did you do ensure you made it to the end?

Well, yes, you are right. For a huge part I am here because of my challenge wins. I cannot deny that since I only lost 4 immunities in total. I worked really really hard for them though, and earned my DV rewards fair and square. There was more to my game though, and had I not won so many immunities then I still may have made it to the end.

First of all, I did a lot to win your and YauMan's trust and didn't sit back when I was safe. We had a very strong threesome that was formed in the early stages of the game. You and YauMan did a lot of work to keep the target off my back, we had each others backs all along, and yes you two protected me with your DV items. Trinity was part of my game, it was part of my strategy, and it's one of the reasons I made it this far. You two were key in getting me here, so I had to make sure that whenever I was safe, you two were safe as well. Whenever I won immunity, I didn't just sit back. I worked hard to keep you guys safe from the vote, I discussed strategy with both of you and tried to see what others like Penner, Kenny, and Courtney were doing. That way I kept two players who would take me far safe, and I won your trust. For example, I showed you that I had your back when people mentioned your name. Come merge, Courtney and to a lesser extent Penner were gunning for you. I tried to steer them away from voting you and I came to you and told you what was going on (sorry Courtney). I was safe, but you two weren't and I really couldn't afford losing one of you.

Besides that, I had an important role in the decision making of Trinity and in turning tables at Final 8. Pre-merge I didn't have much of a chance to call the shots, as most decisions were made during my nights. However, post-merge I had a hand in some crucial events, in particular at the Final 8. Things were really messy, we were paranoid that Brenda/Chelsea/Courtney/Penner would team up against us. That's when I pushed really hard to repair our ties with Shawna. It was my idea, YauMan ultimately did the talking and convincing. It was my idea though and I felt that if Brenda/Chelsea told Shawna about the Final 10 vote on her first, that Shawna may have chosen their side. We tried to make sure she would choose our side, and she did. In addition, Courtney approached me about the vote. That surprised me because that didn't fit with the rumors. I did a lot of effort to talk to her though, to feel her out on what she was thinking, and to talk her out of going after Jen. I chose to be upfront to her and tell her my thoughts on voting Chelsea. As far as I know, I was the first person to bring her name up that round. Courtney went along (partly thanks to the extra thing you did to convince her), and from that point on we would always discuss the vote. That way, while things looked pretty bad at Final 8, tables were turned and things started looking way better.

Summarizing, I did a lot of work both socially and strategically. On one hand I never sat back in the votes and had your backs to the end, you and YauMan were crucial for my game and even though I was safe I did as much as I could to keep the two of you safe as well. On the other hand, I did do as much as I was able to in the behind the scenes talking. I had a huge part in ensuring Shawna's vote, and brought in ideas on how to get to the end whenever it was the right time. By getting both Courtney and Shawna on our side, regardless of the DV items I was safer moving ahead.

, and why do you think Yau-Man made it when he only won immunity once?

As for your other question, why is YauMan here when he only won once? I am starting to believe that he played me well. He led me to believe that he would take me to the Final 2 in a very subtle way. He didn't say the word Final 2 deal, but you know, Trinity was never called "alliance" either. At Final 7 he told me about Courtney and you proposing him a Final 2 deal at the same time and then said that he would take me over you. Given that he would fight for Trinity to be Final 3, I took that as him saying he would take me to the Final 2. It's like 1+1=2. Maybe I was naive, but he told me everything, so I had no reason to believe otherwise. He won my trust, and from that moment I was a 100% loyal to him and did everything in my power to guarantee his safety. In addition, by what he told me I knew that you and Courtney were not going to take me to the Final 2. Shawna and Brenda wouldn't take me either, and hence the only other option I had was to choose Penner's side at Final 7 and to vote you out. That would have gone against Trinity and against YauMan, who I believed would take me to the Final 2. While YauMan had so many people taking him to Final 2 and while I genuinely believed that he would take me, it was very beneficial for me, from my point of view, to stick with him. So YauMan did a great job at winning my trust (and your trust too), and that got him to the end. If he's been planning to stick to his Final 2 deal with Courtney for a while, then he, intentionally or not, played me really well and then that's a major reason why he's here when he only won immunity once.

[Yau-Man Chan]

Yau-Man, I'll start with you. You said in your response to Brenda that you would have honored your Final 2 with Courtney over Anthony or I. Yet you cited your main reason for voting me out as going against the Trinity, when your ideal Final 2 was to fuck over Anthony and myself. A little bit hypocritical don't you think?

First of all I would like to correct you. I said that I would have taken COURTNEY over ANTHONY in the final three that presented itself. As far as I am concerned I had a final 3 with Anthony and You most of the game. It was only after Courtney asked me for a Final 2 and you then solidified anything after final 3. You put me in an awkward position knowing Courtney was asking me the same thing. So with that I will move on .... At final 3 if I had won the immunity challenge and it was Courtney and yourself, I don't know what I would have done. Anthony was immune and there was no sending him home and the cards fell where they did. I was forced to choose between 2 deals I made. I can only apologize for this so much. Perhaps at the end of the day I am hypocrite for wanting to be loyal to more then one person.

You were also upset I didn't have faith you could beat Anthony. Well sorry, I was being realistic and I was right. Unlike you I tried not to bullshit people, I knew Anthony was threat and had to go in order to ensure I'd make the Finals, but due to his many rewards even when he was vulnerable, it was near impossible to take him down. I got close posting over 8 hours to do it, and I knew if he didn't go 4th he was winning the Final challenge and taking you to the end, not me. Of course Anthony would want me gone because I was the biggest obstacle standing in the way of making the Final 2, because if anyone could beat Anthony in flash games, posting or puzzles in this game, it was me.

Where in the hell do you get off Jen. I love you dearly but once again you act as if I have no talent. Anthony did well and gets props but anyone could have gotten lucky on flash games and puzzles. Stop acting like im worthless and you are so superior in competitions. I played this game and set myself up where I could get to final 4 and almost have a guaranteed chance of anyone taking me to the finals with them. This does not mean I lied about how I felt about each one of you. I was loyal to the Trinity, and I did make a final 2 deal with Courtney and then you. I never had one solidified with Anthony BUT I also kept NOTHING from him. I tried to be loyal to all sides till it was not possible anymore. It is a part of the game. I get you hate me, I get your gonna be a real shithead in the future and im prepared to go toe to toe with you, but ya need to stop assuming your something wildly perfect, and you were robbed. Truth be told Anthony with his 53 minute score was going to beat anyone who faced him most likely.


Now I could forgive you for the above bullshit, but then you had to go and still make it all personal by telling Courtney what you did about my story, that I shared with you because I trusted you, and spoiling my alias to Andy as well as the ENTIRE CAST, which I also trusted you with and you knew was very important to me. This is not something you do to a friend.

First of all. If your banned from a series then don't sign up and trick the fucking host. That shit is all on you. And an FUCKING fyi Miss Perfect Im not the only one who knew and you give Andy some shit Credit for not being suspicious of you most of the game. !(@$##@(#($@# At you!! Second, Courtney had a right to know, its not like I said Alex is a fucking bastard and called your son names. I showed her the part of the story so she did not have to return to the archives and be shocked and hurt by it later. I am so over this Courtney bullshit whining. She is a good and caring girl take it up with her. It wasn't personal, but your character Jen was being an insensitive prick and that is ALSO on you!!! Bottom line you make this about friendship and not two characters playing then you need a new hobby buddy.


I would like to know why I went home at the Final 4, no more bullshit, and why you decided to choose Courtney over the Trinity.

The Trinity was sacred for most of this game. I never though any of us would turn on each other, or seriously want to go after the other. As my annoyance grew with you, (your Character Jen) with some of the things you said about Anthony, and your battles with Courtney, I let myself me open to other people, just like Anthony did with Penner. I was happy with how my relationship with Courtney flourished and she had the balls to come to me before Anthony or You, and put everything on the table. Brenda had told her she suspected an alliance and she went for the truth. I respected that. I made a choice to tell her everything. I revealed the Trinity, and plans we had made and executed. I told her the truth about Ace's boot (when you both had a falling out). We all had relationships outside the Trinity. You were voted out for wanting Anthony gone so bad, when Courtney did not feel the need to press it like that. It was like sitting in a room with your three best friends, and someone had to be sacrificed to move on. What guarentee did I have that Anthony with all your talks while at work with him and him being up late, or any other reason he might not take me to finals. I felt for me the best bet was to stick with the two who was either immune or I knew had just as much faith in me as I had them. You don't seem to have faith in my ability in challenges, or up against Anthony, you accused me of "sleeping" through challenges, and you had a bad attitude. Thats the cold hard truth. Could you have won this game? Sure, if sitting in my position you would have just as much a chance at my vote as Anthony. The trinity did a lot together for a majority of the game. Good, Bad, and Evil, and sometimes even Ugly... We live with our choices and I stand behind mine.

And not that I am here to defend Anthony and his question. But when it came to Deception Valley the Trinity bounced around prizes and kept him safe when he was in danger the few times he was, so him sitting here is in part his immunity whoring and the fact he had secured loyalty with us two. Deception Valley though fake often, did make this final 2 possible.