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Post by Brenda Lowe on May 9, 2012 0:43:23 GMT -5
Welcome, whores. Both of you are liars and deceivers and general asscracks and society could very well benefit from a lack of people like you two. But you know, that's what it takes to win online fame and glory. Mhm. One of you relied on winning almost every single fucking challenge to get her. Sure, you were naked a few times, but those times you were laced so thickly with prizes that it was impossible to eliminate you anyway. The other one decided to take a different but similar approach. You were just as sneaky, if not more, and you made deals with everyone. While the other just said "I'd like to work with you," you made concrete deals for F2 with multiple people. Both of your games are severely flawed, and yet you're still here at the end, and one of you will be the winner. Of course, that's not to say you both didn't play outstanding games, because, frankly, you did. Both of you were phenomenal and you had your finger on the pulse of this season. You took early advantage of DV and whored up with the prizes so no one stood a chance against you. Yes, I am basically calling you prize whores. And you can't deny that you both were. Even when the numbers were there - such as in the Kenny vote - Yau played a triple vote. You guys had so many it was almost like Amanda was just pumping prizes out her ovaries for you two. Now, don't get me wrong.. I'm so far from bitter. I'm only mad at myself - could have used Medallion of Power to be immune at f6 then use my 6x vote f5 without the prize negater and I'd have a guaranteed f4. Did that happen? No. Was it my fault? Yes. It was entirely my fault and I blame myself. I'll let a certain man with a hat come explode on you two more ferociously later. Maybe a blonde with a headband, too. They seem to be rather livid. Okay, so, yeah. Congrats, whores. Both of you: Without the addition of Deception Valley do you think you'd both be here tonight? If you could have axed someone from the Trinity premerge, who would it have been and why? If you were forced to spend a weekend alone with one of the jurors, and it can't be Anthony/Yau/Jen/Kenny, who would it be and why? Anthony: You talked to me a good bit later in the game, and I genuinely liked you. However, I always felt you were fake as all fuck. Was this the case? And, what's your favorite scent? Yau: We were basically enemies this game after the Chelsea vote. If you guys didn't have prizes and you had been voted out in place of Chelsea, followed by Anthony, who would you want to see in the finals instead and why? Also, name your favorite holiday and tell me what you enjoy doing during that holiday. Thanks for your whoring time, bitches. May the best slut win.
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Post by Courtney Marit on May 9, 2012 0:54:00 GMT -5
I'll let a certain man with a hat come explode on you two more ferociously later. Maybe a blonde with a headband, too. They seem to be rather livid. Bahahahahahahah!!!!
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Post by Anthony Robinson on May 9, 2012 7:16:09 GMT -5
Thank you Brenda for the congrats and for your epic speech I'll answer your questions to the best of my abilities ~ may you have any follow up questions, feel free to ask.
That's a very interesting question. Actually yes, I think the Final 2 would have been the same without Deception Valley. In fact, I've never had THAT many prizes. Before the Love Amanda challenge, I had four. Two of them turned out to be fake. I've never had more than two real prizes (and the idol, which officially is not a DV item). The reason for having so few prizes was because I usually didn't keep the prizes myself, and I didn't even want to keep all of them. Sometimes I gave away prizes without getting anything in return. In addition, whenever someone wanted to trade, I was up for the trade. One time, both YauMan and Penner wanted to trade. So I gave both of them one of my prizes while I got two in return. I didn't gain anything from it, except maybe their trust and that was important to me. All in all though, yeah, Trinity and especially Jen did have a lot of prizes, that was definitely the case.
Still, I think the outcome would have been the same without the prizes. During pre-merge, I don't think the prizes had much effect on the game. Brianna's triple didn't save her, YauMan's triple in the Kenny vote was fake and didn't do anything. Prizes were also used when Ace was voted out, but one of the nullified votes was Richard's vote for Ace. Post-merge, Trinity had the majority of the votes. At Final 8, Trinity plus Shawna plus Courtney voted together. At Final 7, Trinity plus Courtney had the majority while Shawna was in Deception Valley. At Final 6, YauMan gave his immunity up to Courtney, and that way more or less ensured that she would vote with Trinity. Shawna also voted with Trinity. Then at Final 5, Trinity had the majority, and Courtney voted with us as well. Hence, it's always been a majority of Courtney + Trinity and most of the times Shawna.
There's a little more to this though. I don't want to look past the fact that it MAY have been more attractive for Courtney or Shawna to stir things up had Deception Valley not been there. I can only conjecture about that, but yes it was known that the people in Trinity had a lot of power due to having so many prizes, and if that's the sole reason people voted with Trinity then the outcome of this game may have been different. I think there were other reasons for Courtney to vote with us too though. Therefore I think that we would have had majority even without DV and that we'd both be here tonight.
I bet no one is not allowed as an answer? It's a really tough question. In my mind, YauMan was the first person I bonded with, there was a lot of trust between the two of us, and post-merge I knew that we were going to take each other to the Final 2. However, looking at my pre-merge bootlists, YauMan has always been above Jen, meaning that I would axe YauMan. Jen and I talked every single day and especially pre-merge I had more conversations with her than with anyone else. She was working during her nights which were my mornings, so it was always great to be able to talk and I loved our conversations. We had both small talk and game talk, and she usually kept me up to date on what happened the night before. She did a LOT of strategical thinking and planning and was very valuable for my game. Pre-merge I trusted both YauMan and Jen with my life, but yeah based on my bootlists and who I talked to the most back then I'd have to axe YauMan.
Why not Kenny? I would choose Courtney. First of all because she's always had something to say. I think it'd be really fun to spend a weekend with her, share stories, like the one she told about being cursed by a witch. I mean, that was not a very fun event, but I think it'd be really fun to just hang around and talk and think about life. Second, because I feel that Courtney deserves a break from all the bad luck she's had in the past few weeks. It'd be nice for her to be able to spend a care free weekend just as a nice break.
No, not at all. I'm sorry that you felt that I was fake, but no I really wasn't. I did intend on playing this game as a nice guy, but that's what I am (I'd like to think at least) and I stayed really close to myself and to who I am. In these games, I care more about personal relationships and having fun than about moving myself ahead at all costs. I wouldn't act 'fake nice' to get myself further or to get something done, that's not worth it. Sometimes you (have to) lie about game-related things, but when it comes down to personal relationships I am just myself.
As for our relationship in the game, in the beginning we didn't talk a whole lot and I never really knew much about you and your game. However, because we talked every day before you went to school and when you came back from school, I started to really genuinely like you and I really enjoyed having you in the game. One of the reasons I liked you so much was because you were so real and would never hold back. I don't like fake, can't deal with that. So no, I wasn't faking anything other than the two times I lied to you about who I was voting for; that's something I hated doing, but yeah that's the only thing that I'd call fake.
I've never really thought about that... I really love the smell of freshly washed laundry. I mean, who doesn't, right... but seriously, it smells so fresh and nice, and it brings back memories of my childhood. It brings back memories of my mom taking care of the laundry and me and my brother playing with Lego. I love those memories and sometimes I wish I could to go back to those more care-free times of life. So yeah I'd say freshly washed laundry, it's the first thing that comes to my mind as something I'd consider a favorite.
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Post by Yau-Man Chan on May 9, 2012 8:56:45 GMT -5
Hey B!! I defin accept being called a whore, (Not that I think you care if I accept or not lol), because I truly believe if you even got one round further, you could have stirred some real disaster for the Trinity. You had me inches from cracking to not use my prize the round you went cause I still genuinely feel if it could not be Anthony and I, that you would have swept finals with your game play. Hopefully I answer your questions to the best of my ability and take some of the livid out of your cereal!!
The other one decided to take a different but similar approach. You were just as sneaky, if not more, and you made deals with everyone. While the other just said "I'd like to work with you," you made concrete deals for F2 with multiple people.
I know this sounds bad and I dont doubt its true but I never once remember saying final 2 with Anthony. I know we always talked of going to the end together but I mostly asserted that to the Trinity and final 3. I made a final 4 deal with Shawna and talked bout how at that point something could happen, The first final 2 deal I truly felt I made was with Courtney. I sincerely and though I love Anthony to death would have taken her to honor my word to her if I had won the final challenge. With Jen it was the same for me, I didn't feel until the same night Courtney asked me about finals and I told her EVERYTHING bout Trinity (she claimed she had been warned by you that there was an alliance there and you were right). Jen then made a statement right after I told her Courtney asked along the lines of wanna go to final 2 together. Talk about being in an awkward position. The round Jen left, I left the decision ultimately up to Anthony, because for me it was like choosing between two final 2 partners, and I didn't want to do it.
Without the addition of Deception Valley do you think you'd both be here tonight?
The biggest secret of Deception Valley is certainly the fact that most of the prizes the Trinity found fortune in were fake. I went to Deception Valley it feels like way less then that of Jen and Anthony. Often they would send me prizes to hold for future need. The I LOVE AMANDA challenge broke my heart, ... I had triples and doubles and nullifyers and found them all the be fake. So in turn I only ever at that point held a nullifyer that helped me in the game, and both in votes that majority already was set in the Trinity's favor. When Kenny went my Deception Valley prizes not only was fake but ALSO nullifed my own vote. The most powerful prize of this game I held was the one that sent you home and it was won from the auction. I find that from the beginning the Trinity started as an unwritten bond that we just knew we had to protect. A lot of social chaos went into ensuring someone else was always the target. With Anthony in a different time zone and clearly welcoming the target of "immunity whore", Jen and I picked up the social media task when he couldn't be around. We survived because we had no secrets with one another, and always reported back just the same. I think our trust held the biggest part in Anthony and I sitting here tonight. The only way to know for sure would to eliminate Deception Valley and go back in time. Which btw Amanda I think that would be super fun!!
If you could have axed someone from the Trinity premerge, who would it have been and why?
Before the night that Anthony and I took Courtney's side and voted out Jen I would have never fathomed the idea of sending Jen home. She was an amazing and strategical player this game. She may have been voted out for "Treason against the Trinity" but I have no doubt she was one of the if not strongest threats to win the game. Anthony and I bonded great on the first few nights in Kalahari. If during Pre Merge I was forced to vote one of the two out it would have been Anthony and would have only happened if my hands were tied in the situation.
If you were forced to spend a weekend alone with one of the jurors, and it can't be Anthony/Yau/Jen/Kenny, who would it be and why?
So it took me a few minutes staring up and down the memory wall thinkin this question over. I would choose Shawna. I choose her because I wish I had more time to get to know her on the island. I feel like after we all returned home to the states that Courtney and I would become instant friends and spend many weekends together by choice, and that you and I would possibly kill each other left to our own vices for an entire weekend. Two asians left all alone is too much for anyone to handle. Shawna was the first vote I felt bad about in this game. Not to say it didn't suck voting out the others but with Shawna I had offered her a chance to work with the Trinity coming to final 4. I was informed that you were leading an alliance of "Brenda, Chelsea, Shawna, Courtney, and possibly Penner". This was a huge threat to the trinity. Obviously we dealt with Chelsea who I just never bonded with. That group needed to be split up, and you were seemingly invincible so I approached Shawna with true intent of keeping my word. Jen was not happy I made such an offer and I immediately was keeping Anthony updated. When you went it seemed that the votes were not there. Courtney had just recently come to me and with total respect through down a truth out session. After that night, and feeling as bad as I did for the deal I made with Shawna I sincerely tried to keep my word, and I admit I failed. Taking her on a weekend would be my first step in trying to apologize for that move.
We were basically enemies this game after the Chelsea vote. If you guys didn't have prizes and you had been voted out in place of Chelsea, followed by Anthony, who would you want to see in the finals instead and why?
Had I been voted out in place of Chelsea, with Anthony right behind me ... hmmmmmm... Honestly I would have hoped that Jen would be able to Rally Shawna, Courtney and Penner and take out at least one of Chelsea or you. I think in that situation I would have hoped for Jen and yourself to make finals. I know that Jen and Courtney did not have a strong relationship near the end of the game, and I feel she would have gotten sent to jury in the fold of the game. I think that for the most dramatic and fun finale, Jen and yourself would have been an evened match and extremely interesting to watch who took the win.
Also, name your favorite holiday and tell me what you enjoy doing during that holiday.
As a mom my favorite holiday is Easter. Its colorful, Happy, something for the kids to enjoy and at the same time it gathers family to celebrate passion for faith. Faith and my daughter are my two favorite things in life. Each year all my nieces and nephews come to Grammas we hide eggs EVERYWHERE, followed by dinner and just social gathering. I also selfishly enjoy that it gives us a 4 day weekend and no one can deny two extra days of relaxing from work or school.
Thank You for your questions. I am sure they are the first of many to come from a not so happy Jury but im glad for the opportunity to answer them.
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Post by Brenda Lowe on May 10, 2012 7:03:36 GMT -5
SERIOUS QUESTION YOU GUYS HOW DOES THIS IMAGE RELATE TO YOUR GAMEPLAY AT LEAST 4 SENTENCES.
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Post by Amanda Kimmel on May 10, 2012 9:41:18 GMT -5
Brenda, you're not sick, are you? Maybe we should have Medical come take a look...
(that is your sixth question, and it doesn't seem serious to me... so answering this is completely optional)
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Post by Yau-Man Chan on May 10, 2012 10:00:21 GMT -5
SERIOUS QUESTION YOU GUYS HOW DOES THIS IMAGE RELATE TO YOUR GAMEPLAY AT LEAST 4 SENTENCES. 1. This image could relate to my game play when it came to my word outside the trinity. The toilet paper holder is in the bathtub and sometimes my mind was totally in the wrong place and it could very well make my toilet paper (game play) soggy to the jury!!! 2. The babywipes on the back of toilet could reflect the lies I had to tell as a temporary solution to keeping the trinity safe, somewhat like a bandaid that edged us a round closer but in the long run baby wipes are only a quck accessible solution and in the end its the toilet paper that feels good on your bum!! 3. Hmmmmm I have exceeded four sentences but I have one more. This bathroom is small, and compact. It might reflect how I could have been more open minded to things outside the trinity. That was fun hope you enjoy!!!
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Post by Anthony Robinson on May 10, 2012 10:52:49 GMT -5
SERIOUS QUESTION YOU GUYS HOW DOES THIS IMAGE RELATE TO YOUR GAMEPLAY AT LEAST 4 SENTENCES. At first sight, everything in this picture looks quite... white. However, when taking a closer look you can see more and more colors. My game play, at first sight, may seem like a game that's mainly dominated by challenge wins. While I did win a lot of challenges, there was more to my game like I explained in Jen's thread. There's something wrong with this bathroom though, not the best place for toilet paper :/ There may have been some flaws to my game too. I didn't intend on having multiple things going on at the same time and having secrets, but at the end of the day I felt like I was a bad ally for Penner (happy birthday by the way). Either way I got here, worked hard for it, and am happy to have made it this far. Having a bath tub in my bathroom would make me happy too.
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Post by Brenda Lowe on May 10, 2012 13:45:16 GMT -5
Lolololol you guys I wasn't serious, but thanks <3 I actually got more out of that than some of the real answers. Also, Anthony, you said I wouldn't have taken you to the finals in Jen's question; however, that's not so. As long as Chelsea wasn't with me, I was open to going with anyone, and I really did enjoy our conversations. Also, thanks for clearing up that you weren't being fake. Also, in response to Courtney's "How do you feel about Kenny" question, you said: This answer honestly angered me a bit. Kenny didn't deserve to go out over Alicia, but it was completely fine to keep Angie in till after the merge instead of Ace? Or Brianna? Or Mike, even! All three of them were more active and interesting than Angie, but it's okay to remove them but not Kenny? Yeah, that doesn't sit well with me. :/
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Post by Anthony Robinson on May 10, 2012 17:21:04 GMT -5
This answer honestly angered me a bit. Kenny didn't deserve to go out over Alicia, but it was completely fine to keep Angie in till after the merge instead of Ace? Or Brianna? Or Mike, even! All three of them were more active and interesting than Angie, but it's okay to remove them but not Kenny? Yeah, that doesn't sit well with me. :/ I don't think Kenny deserved to go in that round since it could have been just Alicia leaving and now he was screwed over by a double boot in what wasn't going to be a double boot. That's a little different than Angie who just didn't have the numbers against her. Had Ace and Angie (dead/via self-voting) left in the same round, then I would have felt the same about Ace's departure.
However, I don't think it was completely fine for Angie to survive over those you mentioned. Especially after knowing what became of Angie, I feel terrible that I ever defended her and that I ever even had the thought of keeping her in the game over others.
At that time though, I did see more in Angie than what others saw in her. In the beginning of the game she talked to me a lot, and she did her part in the Stealing the jewels challenge. I hate defending her game after what she did later, but back then she wasn't completely dead. I misjudged her though and thought she was alright. She wasn't, and once she started trolling I didn't think it was OK for anyone to leave over her... but people were set on voting Shawna.
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Post by Jonathan Penner on May 10, 2012 19:09:54 GMT -5
Why is there toilet paper in the bathtub? When you take a shower it would get extremely wet and you would never be able to wipe your ass.
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Post by Brenda Lowe on May 10, 2012 20:26:55 GMT -5
If you had presented me with numbers that vote, I would have gladly voted Angie. I had wanted to for so long. That bitch sucked.
Overall, I liked the entire cast.. minus a select few. And the two of you are about even on the Brendometer. So, who do I vote for? My mortal enemy or the macho sweetheart?
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Post by Courtney Marit on May 10, 2012 21:26:26 GMT -5
And for the record.... Anthony hated that Angie was kept...
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Post by Brenda Lowe on May 10, 2012 22:08:37 GMT -5
You're all whores for sneaking into my Jury questions D:< Kidding of course <3 But no, I'm well aware he was angry, but if he was in the Trinity he should have been able to sway the vote since the Trinity contolled the entire game.
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Post by Brenda Lowe on May 13, 2012 8:25:40 GMT -5
Okay guys, I just wanna say I do think you both played great games, and I like both of you as people. Sadly, being liked doesn't get you my vote, because I prefer bitching. I respect both of you and I wish you the best. But you're still whores. <3
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